Talk Heathen 05.31 08-01-2021 with Kenneth Leonard and Matt Dillahunty
Talk Heathen
Atheist Community of Austin
4.7 • 611 Ratings
🗓️ 1 August 2021
⏱️ 90 minutes
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Summary
Let’s get to calls! James in North Carolina, has thought up a very specific criteria that could prove God if it can actually be done. It is made up of 3 stanzas and he’d like to run them by us. 1. A conversation with God while in a completely lucid state. 2. Confirmation that it was God by external witnesses. 3. Something tangible that was provided outside of this experience that proves this did occur that could be scientifically tested. Matt and Kenneth break these down for him.
Samuel in Maine is next, he disagrees with churches' use of appeal to authority. Kenneth is a bit flummoxed by this interesting place to begin. It’s a great conversation.
David in California, he has definite proof of God and is calling in to set us all straight. He is a return caller, you may recognize him. After a long preamble and whining about how he is being perceived, he finally gives his proof. He claims the universe and matter expanding into unknown space is the proof of God because God created this unknown space. Oh boy.
Lord in California is wondering what to do with old Christian friends after deconverting and finding themselves in debates and conversations with them about religion. He is becoming frustrated with these talks and concerned about the impact on the relationships.
Adam in Romania wants to disprove the existence of a deistic God. Um, ok? He starts by listing out premises using a replacement word for God.
Kevin in New York is asking if anyone ever has asked about the contents of the ‘Ark of the Covenant.’ (Queue the Indiana Jones theme song.) How can we investigate the contents if the Ark doesn’t exist? Who can investigate the Ark and how can we know?
Joe in Canada wants to talk about how specific labels put on people can potentially end conversations. How can we avoid or unpack this? Ooooh, perhaps try some street epistemology!
Billy in Texas is calling about the need to prove that God doesn’t exist. But what if a God could exist? He brings up the quote by physicist Brian Cox: “Everything that can happen, would happen” and tries to apply it to proving the existence of God. Matt puts his feet to the fire asking if it’s possible for a God to not only exist but is capable of telling us it exists.
EJ in Georgia is wondering what our take is on the Council of Nicaea and Ephesus and how it formed the canon of the Bible. Matt explains his position on it and how it is interesting in a historical context.
That’s our show for this week, please continue to be safe in your area, wear your mask, and please get vaccinated. The world is better with you in it. See you next week!
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I Wohr Everybody, hello, welcome. Happy Sunday. everybody hello welcome happy sunday welcome to talk heathen my name's kenneth with me today is a man |
| 0:45.6 | who needs no introduction so we're not going to give him one uh matt dillahunty awesome thanks man |
| 0:50.8 | how you're doing man i'm doing great how are you i doing well. I'm really looking forward to getting into some calls. |
| 0:57.7 | We've got one guy on the line who I'm especially interested in at the outset here. |
| 1:03.6 | I don't know if it's Jeff. Jeffie. Maybe you can help me with that caller. It says you want to talk to us about how you can't shake the fear of hell for your two daughters. |
| 1:14.5 | Is that what you wanted to talk about? |
| 1:18.7 | Hello. |
| 1:18.8 | Hey, how's it going? |
| 1:20.2 | Can you hear us? |
| 1:22.0 | Yes, I can. |
| 1:23.0 | Awesome. |
| 1:23.6 | Awesome. |
| 1:24.5 | So I understand you're having a hard time shaking the fear of hell. |
| 1:29.6 | Yes. If I may ask, if you could come back to me, I'm currently, I was in a busy place and I'm just leaving. |
| 1:38.4 | So if you can come back to me. I'll drop you back in the queue. That's fine. That's fine. We'll drop you back in the queue. We'll take on someone else here. |
| 1:45.5 | I'll tell you what. Let's go with James in North Carolina. James, you, this says that you thought |
| 1:53.3 | of a criteria that would prove God if it could be done. I'm intrigued, James. What's going on? |
| 2:00.9 | Hey, I'm really glad to be talking to you guys. |
| 2:04.9 | Thanks for taking my call. |
| 2:06.4 | I didn't expect to get on. |
| 2:08.4 | See how long that lasts. |
| 2:10.4 | All right. |
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