This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Brewski and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reid.

When the truth feels blurred under inches of snow and a mountain of doubt, the courtroom becomes the only place left to dig.

In the case of Karen Reid, the prosecution claims this is a clear-cut vehicular homicide, maybe even second-degree murder, that she hit Boston police officer John O'Keefe with her SUV in a drunken haze or rage, depending on which charges you want to believe, and left him to die.

The defense on the other side argues that she's not just innocent.

She's the fall girl in a cover-up orchestrated to protect those inside that house.

Two drastically different stories.

One, a shattered tail light.

No camera rolling, but it all went down. Today on Hidden Killers,

we're joined by former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney Eric Fannis to break down

how the case is being built and unbuilt in real time. Eric, let's start with the heart of all

of this. The case hinges not on someone seeing what happened, but on how jurors interpret what Karen Reed

may have said, felt, or even implied in a moment of crisis. As a legal expert here, how

dangerous is it when a case leans more on emotional interference than direct evidence? And is

that ever enough to convict beyond a reasonable

doubt? Yeah, Tony, in nearly every case, the jury is going to be focused on what the defendant

did, what the defendant said, what the defendant's demure was, because they believe that that will

give them some insight into what you know, what the defendant

knows in terms of what played out. That being said, we've always got to be cautious when a jury

is considering that type of emotional evidence because, you know, really, you know, direct, hard,

concrete evidence. That is sound. That is solid. That's not open to misinterpretation,

whereas, you know, human beings' words and how they are emoting is. Very, very true. And there's so many

things that, like everyone just trying to dissect, what did Karen Reed mean by this? How did she feel

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