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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Tackling Systemic Racism in the Fashion Industry

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Harlem Fashion Row’s Brandice Daniel, Black in Fashion Council Co-Founder Sandrine Charles and creative consultant Henrietta Gallina on actionable anti-racism steps brands must take to move the industry forward.

 

NEW YORK, United States — The anti-racism protests that erupted across the US over the last two months have brought conversations around racism in the fashion industry to the fore. In the latest #BoFLIVE event, BoF’s Lauren Sherman spoke with Harlem Fashion Row Chief Executive Brandice Daniel, Sandrine Charles Consultancy Founder Sandrine Charles as well as brand and creative consultant Henrietta Gallina about combatting systemic racism in the fashion industry.
  • In order to implement meaningful change, brands must introduce clear, public goals for which they are accountable. Vague, performative messages will no longer suffice as employees and consumers put pressure on brands to deliver actionable progress. “When we talk about the problem, I always come back to equity and that’s what I’m striving for,” said Gallina. “We are no longer asking for the industry to support us, we are asking for the power structures to be rebuilt.”
  • Companies must be holistic in their approach when tackling racism in the workplace. “It absolutely starts at the leadership level and C-suite level,” Daniel said. “Black people have set the foundation for the fashion industry but we’ve never held leadership roles.” Hiring a D&I chief, while a step in the right direction, doesn’t hold much weight if anti-racism measures aren’t implemented throughout the business, both from the bottom up and the top down.
  • “What’s really important is that everyone else acknowledges where they have a privilege in this industry,” said Charles, who is also the co-founder of the Black in Fashion Council. “Moving forward, they also have to do the work.” Charles, Daniel and Gallina all underscored the importance of introspection and then action, particularly from white and non-Black people. Committed allies are a crucial step to moving the fashion industry forward. “It’s essential that we do the work with everyone because there are various spaces that we don’t have access to,” Charles said.
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Ultimately, we need to shift the dynamic from racism being a HR issue to it being a business issue.

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What is the engagement with the industry and, you know, how has it improved for the better or

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for the worse?

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My fear is that if we're only talking, is the passion going to die down in another

0:39.1

year? And I think that's all of our fear. It's essential for us to not only educate, but work alongside

0:44.5

people who are really willing and ready to make those changes. Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to the

0:57.7

BOF podcast. The anti-racism protests that erupted across the United States and then spread around

1:04.2

the world in the wake of the murder of George Floyd have brought uncomfortable conversations

1:09.5

around racism right into the very heart of the fashion

1:12.6

industry. In our latest episode of the beer podcast, executive editor Lauren Sherman spoke with

1:18.5

Harlem Fashion Road chief executive Brandeis Daniel, Black and Fashion Council co-founder

1:23.7

Sandrine Charles, and creative consultant Henrietta Galena to get their advice on how

1:29.0

our industry can take actionable steps to combat systemic racism.

1:33.8

Here's Brandeis Daniel, Sandrine Charles, and Henrietta Galena inside fashion.

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Hi, everybody, and welcome to today's B.O.F. Live event. I'm Lauren Sherman, B.O.F.'s executive editor.

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And I'm joined today by Brandis Daniel, chief executive of Harlem's Fashion Row,

2:03.0

Sandrine Charles, founder of Sandrine Charles Consulting, Henrietta Galena, Brandon Creative Consultant. And today we're going to be talking about a really important topic always, but, you

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