#SYRIA: Who is Abu Mohammed al Jolani? Aaron Zelin, Washington Institute Malcolm Hoenlein @Conf_of_pres @mhoenlein1
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 6 December 2024
⏱️ 9 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:08.5 | Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:11.5 | From Malcolm Holine Conference of President's major American Jewish organizations, my colleague, |
| 0:17.1 | and we're joined by our colleague Aaron Zelen of the Washington Institute to help us understand this group inside the Syrian rebellion. |
| 0:27.4 | They're said to be jihadists. |
| 0:29.2 | They're said to be an alliance of many different groups coming from backgrounds that are either local or transnational. |
| 0:40.5 | There's one man that is featured in all the reporting, |
| 0:47.5 | Abu Mahabha Jolani, that's a nom de guerre. He is a Syrian, I believe. However, he has been associated in the past with both al-Qaeda and ISIS. In fact, I'm told that HGS, or what it said, what it was |
| 0:54.0 | previously, dates from the divide, the split, the breakup between al-Qaeda and ISIS. |
| 1:02.1 | Aaron, a very good evening to you. |
| 1:03.8 | What can we learn about these jihadists? |
| 1:06.6 | Are they a different flavor or the same old cutthroats? |
| 1:10.0 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:11.7 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:13.3 | It's a very complicated issue in question. |
| 1:17.2 | It is true that Hey, at Tahrir Hashm, or HTS, this main group that's led us offensive, |
| 1:22.5 | had a prior history where they were connected first to the Islamic State from 2011 to 2013 and then from |
| 1:29.6 | al-Qaeda from 2013 to 2016. However, over the last eight and a half years, we've seen this |
| 1:36.6 | transition where they disavowed all that in the past. And they've mainly focused on fighting the |
| 1:42.9 | Assad regime. |
| 1:54.3 | They still remain to be, you know, these conservative Islamists, but they aren't interested in, say, terrorist attacks or terrorist attacks abroad to be more specific. |
| 2:03.9 | At the same time, there remains foreign fighters within its group, a small percentage, but there are. So it is a complicated picture in many regards. It's not sort of your old school thinking related to like ISIS or Al Qaeda, |
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