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Hello, hello, hello, welcome to the naughty but nice show.

I'm your host from Shooter, and it is Wednesday, which means our dear friend, Donnie Meacham, joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you there? Hello, hello, hello. Rob, I must say, and I know I texted you, but I had to let everybody out there know, and Ms. Dee, I was so moved seeing you and Miss Dee together on a Good Day New York. It was like the good old

days. Us at Petinos drinking, having a good old time. And I saw your beautiful smiling faces and

it just made my entire week. You're the best. Chearing on your friends is something that comes so

naturally to you, Donnie. It's just so lovely. Thank you. I know.

I loved it. So I was going to go on Good Day, New York, and they asked me to recommend somebody.

They needed a girl. It couldn't be two boys. And I said there's only one girl in the world who I want to

sit next to her, and it's Miss Dee. She was fabulous. She's really good at it, to be honest. She's better on TV than I am, but she doesn't enjoy it as much as I do. It takes her a moment. And I keep saying to her, you're so good at this, but I think you've got to follow your passions too. If it's not enjoyable, don't do it. But I think she had a good time. I think when you've got a

safety net there, when you have a friendly face sitting next to you, and I certainly am for Misty, I encourage her so much. It makes it a really fun morning. So no, it was lovely to do. We miss you, Donnie. I wish you were in New York. I'd recommend you for this stuff too. You'll be back. Yes. And Misty, she's not a show pony like we are. She's not a show pony. Not stroking your ego here, Rob, but a lot of people know you as cheeky. But what they don't know about you is you are the first person to text after somebody appears on does something and say, good job. You are the first person to, if somebody recommends a friend, you recommend your inner circle. And that's something

people don't know about you. And it really is, like, you can't beat that in a friend.

Thank you. But if you upset me.

No, I'm not... No, you could ever grudges a lot faster than I do.

That's right, Maleficent. You want to see me text fast? Upset me, then you'll see it. Joking, sort of. Okay, let's jump into the show. What time is it, my friends? Tea time. Tea time. A very unusual story to start the show, but I just love this story. So Susie Orman, who is the kind of financial expert. She's always in a blazer.

She's sort of fabulous. They make fun of her on SNL. I've interviewed her and met her a few times.

And what you see on TV is what she is off. So she is saying that a workplace taboo is how the system keeps us down.

Susie says that Americans should be able to talk more freely about money.

More than any other topic out there, Susie thinks this is a topic we should talk about more.

Now right now, that really doesn't happen.

Susie says, God forbid, we should know how much everybody makes. That, in my opinion, is how the

system keeps us down. While many employees have long been encouraged to keep this culture of secrecy about wages,

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