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Modern Mentor

Sustaining progress: Rethinking DEI for the next generation of work with Lily Zheng

Modern Mentor

Macmillan Holdings, LLC

Careers, Business, Management

4.3720 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Rachel sits down with DEI strategist Lily Zheng for a candid conversation on the future of diversity, equity, and inclusion in the workplace. They explore why real progress depends on focusing less on performative programs and more on outcomes that drive lasting change.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Rachel Cook, your modern mentor. I'm the founder of Lead Above Noise, where we help

0:23.8

leaders activate high performance, no burnout required. Whether through boot camps, keynote talks,

0:29.6

or pulse checks, we help teams achieve meaningful change. If that's what your organization needs,

0:34.9

let's talk. And before we jump into today's episode, just as a

0:38.7

reminder, please leave a review if you can swing it. It really helps new listeners find the show.

0:43.9

Okay, so today, I'm excited to bring you this interview with Lily Zhang. Lili is an author,

0:50.3

speaker, and consultant in the world of diversity, equity, and inclusion. And you might be thinking,

0:55.5

well, there are lots of voices out there on this topic. And you'd be right. But I'm telling you,

1:00.9

Lily brings a fresh take to inclusion and belonging and how we can better create these

1:05.7

experiences for really everyone in the workplace. I spent a few moments during this conversation pretty speechless,

1:13.4

and that is a rare thing for me. Just ask my kids. I learned a ton, and I hope you do too. So let's get into it.

1:20.8

Lily Zhang, consultant, strategist, and author, all of the things around diversity, equity, and inclusion. It is such a

1:29.4

pleasure to have you join me on the Modern Mentor podcast today. Thank you for being here.

1:33.6

Thank you so much for having me. I am really stoked to have this conversation. I think it's going to be

1:38.4

lots of fun. I have been looking forward to this for quite some time. So Lily, before we dive in and

1:43.7

there's so much ground I want to

1:44.9

cover with you, can you just give us kind of the quick backstory around what brought you to the work

1:50.1

that you do today? Absolutely. So I think like many DEI practitioners and folks who end up in the

1:58.3

DEI space, I was quite passionate about leveraging what I learned

2:06.2

from school and my skills and my passion to building better workplaces for everyone.

2:12.3

I think unlike a lot of DEI practitioners, I got my start right out of college in DEI teaching roles,

2:20.8

basically, as an educator, as someone who delivered this content

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