There's a difference between what you feel and your interpretation of that feeling, where we run into trouble is in this interpretation part.

Welcome to the One You Feed.

Throughout time, great thinkers have recognized the importance of the thoughts we have,

quotes like garbage in, garbage out, or you are what you think, ring true, and yet for many of us our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us.

We tend toward negativity, self-pity, jealousy, or fear. We see what we don't have instead of what we do, we think things that hold us back and dampen our spirit.

But it's not just about thinking, our actions matter. It takes conscious, consistent, and creative effort to make a life worth living.

This podcast is about how other people keep themselves moving in the right direction, how they feed their good wolf.

Hi, it's Elvis Jaran, on my new podcast, Thinking Out Loud with Elvis Jaran.

I'll be bringing you candid and maybe sometimes a little crazy interviews with people from all walks of life.

We'll touch on subjects that you just can't talk about on the radio, like life, love, success, failure, whatever else comes to mind.

But all jacked up, because after being in this business for as long as I have, I want to get to the bottom of what makes people tick.

Now listen to my new podcast, Thinking Out Loud on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to the show. Our guest this week is Susan Piver, a Buddhist teacher and the New York Times bestselling author of seven books, including The Hard Questions and the award winning, How Not to Be Afraid of Your Own Life.

Her most current book is The Wisdom of a Broken Heart, and her eighth book, Start Here Now, A Guide to the Path and Practice of Meditation, will be published this year.

Susan is also the creator of the innovative Open Heart Project and online community to help you deepen your meditation practice.

Here's the interview.

Hi Susan, welcome to the show. Thank you, I'm glad to be here.

We're glad to have you with us tonight. So our podcast is called The One You Feed, and it's based on the parable of two wolves where there's a grandfather who's talking with a grandson.

And he says in life there are two wolves inside of us. One is a good wolf which represents things like kindness and bravery and love, and the other is a bad wolf which represents things like greed and hatred and fear, and these two wolves are kind of always at battle with each other.

So the grandson stops and thinks for a second and he looks up at his grandfather and he says, well grandfather, which one wins? And the grandfather says, The One You Feed.

So I'd like to start off by asking you what that parable means to you in your life and in the work that you do.

There's something so moving and striking every time I haven't heard that a thousand times what I probably heard it a couple of times, and each time I do it sort of gives me chills.

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