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great Susan Glasser staff writer at the New Yorker also co-author of the

divider a history of Donald Trump in the White House which she co-wrote with her

husband Peter Baker her latest I listened to Trump's rambling unhinged the tuperative Georgia rally and

so should you. Hey Susan thanks for doing this. Hey there great to be with you.

I have to tell you I was at my brother's bachelor party this weekend. I was a little hung over on Sunday morning and I was scrolling through the Sunday show clips and I saw you going ham on this week panel and I was like we have to get Susan we have to get Susan to talk about this.

And the context I believe was the bloodbath gate and you know there's some back and forth in the

panel about whether the media should be focused more on Trump's tariff policies or whether I think your view was that maybe the actual most important thing or the threats to democracy and the threats of

violence. So you know talk about how you see that and what the media's role in all this should

be. Yeah well to be clear Tim you know my point was actually, I wasn't talking about bloodbath, I was talking

about in a broad sense, Trump's challenges right now to the basic kind of pillars of democracy

and how paradoxically impossible

it seems to be for people to focus on it

because it comes out and is spewed forth

in this was

Saturday evening rambling rallies and this was another great case and point

and people want to reduce it. I understand the impulse right you know

obviously it would be a terrible homework to inflict upon people to require them to watch Donald Trump for two hours every Saturday.

I'm not recommending that, but in fact, once again, we see how the need to reduce it to a news cycle plays very much into

Trump's favor.

And so, you know, the entire performance, once again, in that Ohio rally, very comparable

to the Georgia rally of the week before that I wrote about

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