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To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Surviving in the Age of Disaster

To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Wisconsin Public Radio

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4.7844 Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Floods and fires have always been with us, but now we may have crossed over into a new stage of permacrisis. So what does resilience look like when you know this fire or flood won’t be the last one? What survival strategies do we need for this age of climate disaster? 

Original Air Date: February 01, 2025

Interviews In This Hour:
Resilience or recklessness? The risks of rebuilding where disaster strikesCan we still talk about 'natural disasters' in the age of climate change?Why we need better stories to persevere in uncertain times

Guests:
Brian Stone, Lorraine Daston, Annalee Newitz


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0:00.0

Floods and fires have always been with us.

0:07.0

But environmental scientists and emergency managers say we have crossed over into a new stage of perma crisis.

0:15.0

If it seems like the world is constantly reeling from one climate disaster to the next, you're right.

0:23.2

So what does resilience look like when you know that this fire, this storm, this flood won't be the last?

0:30.7

In this episode of, to the best of our knowledge, survival strategies for the age of disaster.

0:49.0

Thank you. survival strategies for the age of disaster. It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Andesdrain champs.

0:55.2

100-year floods now happen every year.

0:58.7

Wildfires spread where they never used to go.

1:01.5

And in every case, when the storm and the TV cameras are gone,

1:05.4

the people left behind face an agonizing choice.

1:09.1

Do they stay or go? Rebuild or relocate? We have been asking that since Hurricane

1:17.8

Katrina.

1:20.4

It raised questions about, one, how to recover, and two, how to grapple with the reality that it was likely to happen again.

1:32.0

I ain't going to no place, man. I'm going to stay right here.

1:36.6

This is it. This is my home and this is where I'll be.

1:40.8

The city made the decision to rebuild, but was it the right choice?

1:46.0

That question haunts urban planner Bryant Stone.

1:51.0

One of the lessons that we have from the Dutch, which is a full country that's mostly under sea level,

1:57.0

is how, one, to defend with physical infrastructure, but two, how to accommodate the water that must and will periodically come in.

2:06.6

That was one of the philosophies that was considered in the immediate aftermath

2:10.6

through a commissioned appointed by the mayor.

2:13.6

And so one of the strategies was to identify floodable spaces.

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