The scariest things is when a riot would kick off.

And I put together a meeting or something like that with some heads.

And I would sit there with these guys.

And I let them know that one of us might not make it out alive right now.

You know?

Because a riot's going to happen.

And you got to fight until they say stop.

My guest today is a homeboy who goes by Garrett.

Garrett grew up in meth-infested Palmdale, California.

You could say he grew up in meth culture.

By 13, he was using it and selling it.

By the time he was 16 or 17 years old, he had learned how to cook it.

By 19, he was a kingpin, moving pounds and pounds and pounds of it at a time.

And by 20, he was fully addicted and going in and out of prison for the next 15 years.

In prison is where he found respect. He was on level three and four yards in California state prisons.

That is the hardest, most violent place to do time.

And he was a shock caller. Time and time again, every time he went in to do a stretch, he ran

the Peckerwood gangs in there. And he has stories, quite honestly, that gave me chills as I was

talking to him. It's unbelievable, but he eventually got out,

got off a dope, turned his life around, and now he's been sober for over a decade. He runs a

podcast. He runs his own business. He runs a rehab center. He is a success story against all odds.

Go over to the Patreon as well if you want to hear more detail about his time in recovery.

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