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Surveillance State: Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control

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KQED

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6 • 656 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

When Americans hear about surveillance in China, it is usually through a dystopian lens. There is good reason for that—in the west of the country, the Uighur minority has been persecuted with unprecedented technological force. In a new book, “Surveillance State: Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control” veteran Wall Street Journal reporters Josh Chin and Liza Lin aim to expand that lens, to “help people grasp state surveillance in its totality.” They ask how the Chinese government’s deployment of AI-powered tools of social control can actually be alluring and useful to everyday people, even as it is nightmarish to those caught in its algorithmic teeth. Guests: Josh Chin, deputy bureau chief in China, The Wall Street Journal Liza Lin, data use and privacy journalist, The Wall Street Journal Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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When Americans hear about surveillance in China, it's usually through a dystopian lens.

1:06.0

There's good reason for that.

1:08.0

In the west of the country, the Uyghur minority has been persecuted with unprecedented

1:11.9

technological force. And a new book by Wall Street Journal reporters takes a different approach

1:17.7

from the anti-surveillance screed. They instead aim to help people grasp state surveillance

1:23.3

in its totality. They ask how the Chinese government's deployment of AI-powered tools of social

1:29.0

control can actually be alluring to everyday people, even as it's nightmarish to those caught

1:34.6

in its algorithmic team. So, join us this morning for a discussion of state surveillance in China

1:39.9

after this news.

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