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Right now, someone that I enjoy immensely having in always, and it can be on any number of themes with someone this astute.

His name is Ben Carson. He's from Detroit with a

interesting childhood an outstanding medical career and then he wandered into

politics and then that is now the Secretary for Housing and Urban Development.

We're thrilled that how Secretary Ben Carson can join us.

Thank you.

Wonderful to have you with us again.

Not a politician.

Mr. Sir, well I know you're not a politician, but you have to deal with them. I want to begin on a direct note, which is of course this nation is riveted by all that's occurred and everyone has a different opinion, very few of us actually

understand the damage these guns cause.

You were at John Hopkins out of University of Michigan,

wandered over to John Hopkins.

When did you first stand there in an operating room looking at what some of these firearms can harm us.

Well, as an intern, right in the middle of the city in the emergency rooms you would see people come in with just

horrendous wounds and in many cases they were people who weren't directly involved in the conflict.

They were bystanders.

And sometimes they had to deal with children who were bystanders who had gunshot wounds to the head.

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