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some Spotify comments because we're going to try and read those out as well. Because you leave us

loads of nice comments. Yeah, we have a jolly good laugh reading them. Easy to listen, digestible deep dives, five stars. I enjoy your succinct, well-informed cultural deep dives. Hello from L.A. That is from You Better Dork. Hello from London. Hello, thank you. Thank you. And then this is from Nikki on Spotify. Can't figure out where to leave a review, so leaving it here. Couldn't get through in my week without these girlies. The hosts have a phenomenal rapport. Unendingly refreshing takes and every episode leaves me feeling smarter whilst also ruffling like a maniac. 10 out of 10 my favourite podcast. I never get a raffle anymore, do you? You don't. That's very nice. Thank you, Nikki. And then Esther, who is our best friend, she comments on literally everything and every Instagram post as well. Thank you, Esther. Thank you, Esther. It says, people will believe absolutely anything. I'm out of the loop with this week's topic and maybe I'm glad of it. Love the episode. That's about last week, Bonnie Blue and Lily Phillips. Thank you so much. You weren't alone because I was out of the loop as well.

I was very deep into the loop.

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five stars. Without further ado, what are we talking about today, Gina? Today we are talking about

Lily Collins. Well, not really. We're talking about surrogacy. And she's kind of like kicked it off

though because she's the one who's currently underneath everyone's ire for using a surrogate.

Yeah, so Lily Collins had a surrogate baby, or a child via surrogacy. I don't know if Saragot baby is a bad term.

I think, yeah, a child by surrogate. And Twitter went mad and it's kicked off basically

surrogacy discourse. I will go through the basics.

So Lily Collins has welcomed her first child by Sarah C. She shared the news on Instagram

with her husband, Charlie McDowell, a British American filmmaker. Welcome to the centre of our

world. Tuve. Is that how you say it? Yeah, like, Tuve-N-Lo!

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