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SURINAM RISING. #NEWWORLDREPORT: LATIN AMERICAN RESEARCH PROFESSOR EVAN ELLIS, U.S. ARMY WAR COLLEGE STRATEGIC STUDIES INSTITUTE. @REVANELLIS #NEWWORLDREPORTELLIS

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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SURINAM RISING. #NEWWORLDREPORT: LATIN AMERICAN RESEARCH PROFESSOR EVAN ELLIS, U.S. ARMY WAR COLLEGE STRATEGIC STUDIES INSTITUTE. @REVANELLIS #NEWWORLDREPORTELLIS
1862 SURINAM

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0:00.0

I'm John Dr. Dr. with my colleague, Professor Avanelles, just returned from the Americas.

0:08.0

There's trouble in Bogota.

0:10.1

Reuters, armed groups totaled 21,958 people in a recent survey by the end of June 2025.

0:18.4

This is 45% more than the estimate of 15,000 plus in mid-22 when President

0:26.0

Gustavo Petro took office. And I want to go immediately to the detention of a man who is said

0:33.8

to have hired the teenager who used a pistol to shoot a headshot of Senator Rebae,

0:40.3

who remains in a hospital on critical condition, a 39-year-old man.

0:44.6

But his polling is extremely positive right now.

0:48.5

He's a leading candidate for the presidency in 26.

0:51.8

However, what we have here is the suggestion that under a former terrorist boss,

0:59.9

Gustavo Petro, that what we have is a country out of control and has lost at least security

1:07.9

in the areas outside of Bogota. What is your measure of the petro government now?

1:14.6

Is it destabilizing as we speak?

1:17.6

A great question, John.

1:19.6

And so as you alluded to, there is really a sense of political paralysis,

1:24.6

but also a crumbling of the security situation, in part because of the

1:30.5

political situation, also the personal situation of its current leader in former M-19,

1:35.4

guerrilla Gustavo Petro.

1:37.5

But as you alluded to, first, the report that came out with an internal report done by the

1:43.3

Colombian intelligence and security services, which was made public, doing an estimation of the different armed groups.

1:48.9

Essentially, under Gustavo Petro's total peace policy, he was essentially trying to extend what was already a flawed agreement from 2016, demobilizing the FARC.

1:58.9

He was trying to extend it to other groups.

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