Welcome to Think Biblically, Conversations on Faith and Culture,

podcast from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics.

I'm your co-host Sean Mitalh professor of Christian Ethics. I'm your co-host, Sean Macau, Professor of Apologetics.

On December 1st of 2021, the US Supreme Court heard oral arguments in a landmark case that may result in the overturning of the historic

Roe v. Wade case from 1973 that decided the legality of abortion in all 50 states in the United States.

We wanted to take some time and talk about the argument that was made on both sides.

This is going to be just with Sean and me, even though the decision will not be handed down for probably six months from now,

probably in June of 2022 is when that will be handed down.

But we gain some important indications about where the court might land and what some of the implications of that would be that we wanted to explore with you together just so you're up to date on this really important case as it as it concerns the

sanctity of life for the unborn.

Scott we've both spoken out on this we've both written on this had a lot of conversations, but you've really done a lot of

consulting and high-level work in this area and tracked it about as well as anybody.

So I'd love to throw some questions your way and I think it may be

helpful to start with a little background to this and of course we got Roe

versus Wade 1973 we've got Planned Parenthood versus Casey 1992 and then some other more recent

rulings give us a little background to understand what's happening today.

Yeah up, up until 1973, there was no federal law that governed the legality of abortion.

Those were essentially decided sort of state by state.

And most states have prohibited abortion.

And as a result, there was, you know, there's a lot of debate over the how, what the

instance of this was, but there were a lot of what were called back alley abortions

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