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The United States Supreme Court is not taking Juan Mershahn out of his chair as he considers whether and when he will sentence Donald Trump

for the 34 felony count conviction in New York, nor are they going to disturb the gag order

that Judge Mershahn put in place over a year and a half ago or almost two years ago

against Donald Trump in that matter,

that in a new ruling by Judge Alito of all things of the United States Supreme Court.

I'm Michael Popak. You're on Legal A.F. And the Midas Touch Network. And let me break down for you

a little followed case, but one that is, I thought, very,

very interesting. It was not brought by Donald Trump. The case to try to overturn the gag order

was brought, I assume, for publicity purposes, by a little known litigator in New York and New Jersey,

who also has a podcast. No, it's not Michael Popok. It's a guy

whose last name is Joe, or his name is Joe Niernan, and he has a podcast called Good Logic.

Okay? And I guess he decided he wanted to get some publicity for his podcast. So he filed a

petition that started in the New York state court system at the appellate court as the petitioner.

Donald Trump, not the petitioner, but of course impacted by the ultimate ruling. And good logic tried to argue to the

appellate division, First Department in Manhattan, that they had a First Amendment, as members of the

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