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Supporting the Opposite Gender in the Christian Workplace

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 19 October 2017

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Editor’s note: This podcast makes reference to sexual assault. One of Hollywood’s biggest open secrets is now out in the world: heralded producer Harvey Weinstein’s notoriously long track record of sexual harassment against women. These revelations have sparked a national conversation about the relationship between men and women in the workplace, and the prevalence of sexual assault, harassment, and unwanted attention. Regardless of a workplace’s affiliation to faith, speaking out about colleagues’ bad behavior is challenging for most people, says Halee Gray Scott, the director of Denver Seminary’s Kaleo Project, who is currently writing a book exploring how men and women can work well collectively in ministry. The obstacles just manifest themselves in different ways. “I’ve worked in Christian organizations for 20 years and there is a tendency to think that everyone’s doing everything right,” said Gray Scott. “[Everyone believes that] everyone’s trying to do the godly thing. … You end up having that discretion moment where you ask, ‘Is something going wrong? I’m not sure that it is. It can’t possibly be.’” On the other hand, there may be a broader acceptance of questionable behavior at a non-religious company, she says. “In secular organizations, there is a tendency to accept a certain level of sexual impropriety as flirting or goofing off or someone having a good time,” said Gray Scott. Gray Scott joined assistant editor Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to discuss the difference between enabling and showing discretion, why culture cares more about sexual harassment than in decades past, and how the Billy Graham rule fits into this discussion. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.

0:11.0

Learn to explain your faith with courage and compassion.

0:14.5

Join Moody Bible Institute professor Dr. Mikhail del Rosario at apologeticsky.com.

0:29.3

Music Michael Del Rosario at Apologeticsguy.com. You're listening to Quick to Listen.

0:31.1

Each week we go beyond hashtags and hot takes to discuss a major cultural event.

0:35.4

I'm Morgan Lee and I'm assistant editor here at Christianity Today and I'm joined, as always, by Mark Alley.

0:41.2

Hey.

0:42.1

Mark, I think you're hitting your one-year anniversary of the show pretty soon.

0:45.0

I am.

0:45.8

You're going to get me a cake or something?

0:47.5

Yeah, sure.

0:48.5

What do you want?

0:48.9

Well, no, no, we can't do that.

0:50.4

I think everyone knows I'm trying to lose weight, so forget that. Okay. Well, buy me an apple or a piece of celery. It's true, guys. Mark has lots of apples on his

0:58.6

office table. They're pretty good sometimes. All right, Mark, who do we have with us? We have Haley

1:04.4

Gray Scott. She's the director of the Kaleo Project at Denver Seminary, which focuses on enabling

1:10.3

churches to build ministries

1:12.1

that reach millennials. She's the author of Dare, Mighty Things, and most pertinent for our

1:17.0

conversation today, as listeners will soon hear. She is currently working on a book that explores

1:22.1

how men and women can forge effective partnerships in ministry. Hey, Haley, how are you?

1:27.2

I'm great. Thanks for having me.

1:29.3

Congratulations, Mark, on your almost year.

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