Support and Defend: Military Whistleblowers Confront a Rogue Chain of Command
DarkHorse Podcast
Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying
4.6 • 5.3K Ratings
🗓️ 14 October 2022
⏱️ 126 minutes
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Summary
Bret speaks with three active and past duty service members about their experience in the US military during Covid, they seek to bring to light what they are seeing and what it represents.
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John Bowes is a first lieutenant in the United States Airforce, he is a student F16 pilot who has been grounded over the Covid vaccine mandates.
Olivia Degenkolb has been in the US Navy for 20 years as an active-duty service member, she is a foreign area officer, and was selected as the assistant naval designate to Beijing, the department of defense has recently stated that she cannot return to service as an unvaccinated member.
Dale Saran is an attorney and a retired major in the Marine Corp, he has been litigating the military vaccination issue for the past 20 years.
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introductions
(03:22) Sponsors
(09:07) Gulf War Syndrome and anthrax vaccine mandate
(14:40) Nuremberg
(20:14) Olivia's story
(30:45) Readiness
(38:40) Saboteurs, enemy action, regulatory capture
(53:30) Military mandates
(01:02:50) Adverse events
(01:07:40) Members of Congress
(01:13:40) Experience prior to mandates
(01:20:08) John's experience, religious accommodation, and natural immunity
(01:29:37) Fetal cells and religious beliefs
(01:40:50) Opting out due to scientific beliefs?
(01:49:13) Accepting immoral orders and Biden's speech
(01:53:00) Olivia and John's closing personal stories
(02:04:35) Wrap up
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| 0:00.0 | They're not vaccines and that, you know, I don't know if you're familiar with the right to die cases that came out of Oregon and and |
| 0:09.0 | Washington governor governor Booth Gardiner |
| 0:11.8 | If I'm mistaken was integral to that fight |
| 0:15.0 | Right, and the outcome in the Supreme Court was ultimately that you could not you could not force someone to take a treatment |
| 0:23.2 | Even if it were life-saving and other Supreme Court said we don't even belong here, you know, but |
| 0:28.3 | You cannot force someone to take a life-saving treatment and so if these these vaccines that aren't if it turns out there a treatment |
| 0:37.7 | Legally speaking that means that even if you are even if you could show that they saved a life and I'm with you |
| 0:42.8 | I don't believe that's what you know in fact. I know it hasn't you know, that's a different issue, but |
| 0:48.3 | That you can't mandate a life-saving therapy on someone under Supreme Court precedent |
| 0:53.6 | So if these are if these are gene therapies and you're you know, you've taken paternalism to a level now we |
| 1:01.1 | The the underlying premise would be the government can control your body and you're getting your immune system on a license agreement |
| 1:12.5 | Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast. This is going to be a very special episode |
| 1:18.8 | I have the distinct pleasure and honor of sitting today with John Bose Dale Seran and Olivia DeGon Cove |
| 1:25.5 | I'm going to allow them to tell you who they are and what role they play and to deliver a |
| 1:32.1 | Disclaimer that I know they must in order to protect themselves from |
| 1:37.8 | Forces that would rather that they not show up and speak publicly about what they have seen |
| 1:43.7 | Why don't we start with you John? |
| 1:45.7 | Well, thank you for having me on bread. It's really a privilege to be here in an honor |
| 1:50.7 | My name is John Bose. I'm a first lieutenant in the United States Air Force and I'm an F-16 student pilot who is grounded over the |
| 1:57.5 | COVID-19 vaccine mandates and I want to make it clear that like Brett said |
| 2:01.7 | I do have a disclaimer and that is that I'm representing myself and my thoughts and opinions expressed here are purely my own and I don't |
| 2:07.3 | Represent the Department of Defense or the United States Air Force |
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