The All right, got the great Trevor Loudon on with us here.

This is probably, well, I will say not probably, definitely, one of the best geopolitical voices in the world, I would say, I would say, pretty much. Is that overstating things, Trevor?

Maybe a little, but I'll take it. Put you right on the spot right away there. Right.

So let's start here. I'm dressing this all up today, kind of what I'd like to talk a little bit

with you about, is the cost of

being a superpower, Trevor, okay? There's a cost to this. And nobody really ever addresses

that in the way that I'd like to today. So let's start with America first, MAGA. Okay?

How do you size up the division in this community now where Trump has gone in places that nobody expected him to go?

They didn't expect that this was not on the menu for a lot of people when they voted for him.

So take it from that aspect of America First MAGA, the division within all of that and what's taken place.

How do you size that up?

Yeah, that's interesting.

I think there are two aspects of this, you know.

So you've got a very strong Russian propaganda apparatus in America.

And that's penetrated the Republican Party and even the Trump administration to some degree.

I think there's a war on the Trump administration between the pro-Russia people

and the more traditional people like Marco Rubio, et etc. who want to, you know, keep America's

role in the world, you know, counter the evil powers and stand up to them. And so the divisions

really opened up over the Ukraine war and then after October 7th in Israel.

So now, you know, look, when I grew up as a conservative in the Reagan era, if you're a

conservative, you stood for America, you stood for a strong national defense, you supported

our allies, you liked Israel, and you like low taxes and good education and a strong military.

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