I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most

valuable gifts you can give yourself is time. Taking time to be more fully present. Your journey

to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now.

Last time Brene was here, we had an eye-opening, Aha Field conversation about her best-selling book

Daring Greatly.

We have to dare greatly and do another show. That's it. I'll be right here. Okay.

I saw all of your tweets and Facebook postings, and I know that you too

learned so much about a fulfilling life that takes courage, risk-taking. And Brunay says a willingness

to be vulnerable. You can't get to courage without walking through vulnerability, period.

Back in 2010, Bray did just that.

She used her personal spiritual awakening as the inspiration for a lecture that went viral

with more than 8.5 million views.

In her book, Daring Greatly, Bray Brown has a top 10 to-do list of what it takes to be a

wholehearted person, a person who believes in their worthiness and is resilient to shame.

Last time, Bray and I talked, we got through five of the guideposts, cultivating authenticity,

letting go of what people think, cultivating self-compassion, letting go of perfectionism,

cultivating a resilient spirit, letting go of numbing and powerlessness,

cultivating gratitude and joy, letting go of scarcity and fear of the dark,

cultivating intuition and trusting faith, letting go of the need to be certain.

This is why I wanted to do a second show. First of all, couldn't get it all in in the first show.

But we have to talk about shame and how it rules our existence.

And we have to talk about shame and fear

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