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Welcome to the Ringer NFL Show on the Ringer Podcast Network. I'm Robert Mays and I am not being joined by Kevin Clark.

Kevin is already on a much-deserved vacation. We're going to do a post-super bowl show that is just a grab bag of great guests and voices.

We're going to start by talking to Ted Wynn from the Athletic NFL about the Patriots' game plan and just how brilliant it was.

From there we're going to talk to Hall of Fame, corner-back tie-all-off about his time with the Patriots and the process of getting elected into the Hall of Fame.

From there we're going to talk to Jeff Schwartz, former NFL offensive lineman who works a whole bunch of places about the Patriots' game plan on defense and how their offensive line played, just how impressive this season from them is.

And finally, I'm going to chat with Mena Kymes from ESPN about the most pressing topics of this offseason.

With that, let's get to the show.

I am thrilled to welcome Ted Wynn from the Athletic NFL who did an unbelievable breakdown about some of the stuff that the Patriots did in this game schematically.

Ted, thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate it, man.

Oh, problem. Is this how it feels to make it to actually be on the Ringer Podcast?

That is definitely, I hope to God that is not what it means to make it.

But they're selling yourself way too short if this is what you think.

But let's get into this because I was so interested in obviously the Patriots' game plan was such a story coming out of the game.

But we really couldn't break it down in depth in our Sunday show because there's no way to know in the immediate throws after the game what they did without looking at some of the tapes.

So now that we've had a couple days to digest it, the first thing I want to ask you about is just what they did against the Rams running game.

Obviously, we've heard about them using a six-man front with one linebacker.

So walk me through some of the specifics and some of the aspects of that that you found just kind of most effective and most surprising.

Well, if I think you probably read some of Warren Sharp's work that's previously super bowl and he put out that the Patriots were one of the worst, or maybe the worst team in the league at the Fendi and a run against 11 personnel.

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