Ted Audio Collective. Talk Daily listeners, I'm Elise Hugh. Today we have an episode of another

podcast from the TED Audio Collective hand-picked by us for you. Holidays like

Mother's Day often give us a chance to appreciate the caretakers in our lives.

At least I sure hope they do. to appreciate the caretakers in our lives.

At least I sure hope they do.

In that spirit, we are sharing an episode of how to be a better human

featuring I-Gen Pooh.

She's the president of the National Domestic Workers Alliance and in this conversation

she encourages us to start thinking more deeply about caring for our loved ones.

If you like the interview you can hear more like it each week on the How to Be a Better Human Podcast.

You can find How to Be a Better Human wherever you get your podcasts and learn more about the

TED Audio collective at audio collective. TED.com.

Now, onto the episode, right after a quick break.

You're listening to how to be a better human. I'm your host Chris Duffy.

Several years ago, my wife Molly was dealing with chronic pain,

and all of a sudden, she was unable to do so many of the things that she used to be able to do for herself.

It was a huge adjustment in both of our lives emotionally, physically, socially.

It honestly made my head span how quickly normal

got upended for us.

I was trying to help her navigate her job

and her doctor's appointments

while also taking care of the shopping, the cooking,

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