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But I saw this in the cut sheet and I thought we've got to play this.

Newt Gingrich was talking about how indestructible Trump is.

Did you see what the analogy was that he used, Buck?

He said Trump is a mythic figure.

This is maybe the nerdiest analogy of all time from Newt Gingrich.

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Look, if you're a relatively sophisticated leader around the world, and you watch nine years of the rise of Donald Trump, and you watch two impeachments, and you watch all of these efforts to catch him in the law, and you watch two assassination attempts, and the guy just keeps coming.

As I said the other day, this is a mythic figure, almost like the various Scandinavian

Bayo-Wolfs and other kind of sagas. I mean, you can't, there's no practical way that you

can explain Trump within a normal political structure.

All right, Buck.

So I need to know something.

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