Hi, I'm Anouche, I'm Rachel, and I'm Emma.

And on today's episode of the New Statesman podcast, we discuss the economy and how it

comes into the Tory leadership race, and you ask us, is Labour's plan to ditch nationalising

utilities a threat to the net zero agenda?

So last time we spoke about the Tory leadership election, it was with Andrew Mahar, a couple

of episodes ago, and he was saying that each candidate represents a very different vision

for the future of the economy.

But now it looks like Rishi Suneak is scrabbling to change that he is trying to burnish his tax

cutting credentials, saying he'd cut the AT on energy bills, that's something he actually

refused to do as Chancellor.

And his latest announcement that we've just been reading about this morning is to stick

to cutting income tax by 1% from 2024, which he'd already pledged to do as Chancellor.

But then go further by cutting it by a 3P more.

So this is basically from 20P to 16P by the end of the next parliament, which could be

as early as 2028 or as late as 2030.

So we don't really know quite what the timeline is.

But the politics are quite telling, aren't they, Rachel?

The postal votes are going out to our members today, I think.

So he's running out of time if he wants to try and steal a march on trust.

Yeah, I think that's, I think that's right enough.

It feels like every time Suneak comes out and says, Rishi Suneak comes out and says,

here's another tax cut.

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