Summer Friday: Religion & 2024; Humane Policing; Kids Reading for Fun; Thriving City; Summer Camps and Jewish Cultural History
The Brian Lehrer Show
WNYC
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 28 July 2023
⏱️ 109 minutes
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Summary
On this Summer Friday, we've put together some of our favorite recent interviews, including:
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The number of Americans who are part of any organized religion has been dropping for decades, and over the past ten years, dropped by about 11 points. Ryan Burge, associate professor of political science at Eastern Illinois University, research director for Faith Counts, and the author of The Nones: Where They Came From, Who They Are, and Where They Are Going (Fortress Press, 2021), digs into the patterns around the country and explains how the trend might affect presidential politics in 2024 and beyond.
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Neil Gross, sociology professor at Colby College in Maine, former police officer, and author of Walk the Walk: How Three Police Chiefs Defied the Odds and Changed Cop Culture (Metropolitan Books, 2023), argues police culture can become more humane and effective using the examples of three departments whose chiefs made it happen -- in Stockton, California; Longmont, Colorado; and LaGrange, Georgia.
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Katherine Marsh, journalist and author of books for middle-grade readers, including her latest, The Lost Year: A Survival Story of the Ukrainian Famine (Roaring Brook Press, 2023), argues that an unintended consequence of teaching kids critical reading skills is that they read less for fun.
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Elizabeth Glazer, founder of the journal Vital City and former director of the New York City Mayor’s Office of Criminal Justice, talks about indicators Vital City is collecting that show whether New York City is safe, vibrant and thriving.
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Sandra Fox, visiting assistant professor of American Jewish history at New York University, director of the Archive of the American Jewish Left in the Digital Age, founder and executive producer of the Yiddish-language podcast "Vaybertaytsh: A Feminist Podcast in Yiddish," and the author of The Jews of Summer: Summer Camp and Jewish Culture in Postwar America (Stanford University Press, 2023), talks about the origins of sleepaway camps for Jewish kids in the U.S. and their influence on American Jewish culture, as callers share their stories from summer camp.
These interviews were polished up and edited for time, the original versions are available here:
The Changing Religious Landscape and the 2024 Election (Jun 5, 2023)
Case Studies in Humane Policing (Mar 23, 2023)
Have We Taken the Fun Out of Kid's Reading? (Apr 10, 2023)
Thriving City (Apr 3, 2023)
Summer Camps and Jewish Cultural History (May 10, 2023)
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | It's the Ryan Laird Show on WNYC. Good morning, everyone. It's a summer Friday, |
| 0:15.9 | hooray, and we've put together and slightly spiffed up. We hope some recent conversations |
| 0:21.3 | with some guests whose appearances have stayed on our minds. We have a police officer |
| 0:25.6 | turned sociologist with that unique dual perspective on modern policing and police reform. |
| 0:32.2 | We'll hear a theory on why kids are reading but reading less for pleasure and the implications of that. |
| 0:38.8 | You'll hear my take as well as some of yours on the question of what gives a city its vitality |
| 0:44.7 | plus a very summery history segment on the development of Jewish summer camps. |
| 0:50.4 | All that is coming up and let's start here. We're the conversation about the changing picture |
| 0:55.5 | for religion and political affiliation. This headline from an article in Political Magazine |
| 1:01.6 | caught my attention. The religious landscape is undergoing massive change. It could decide the |
| 1:07.5 | 2024 election. The article is by Eastern Illinois University Political Science Professor Ryan |
| 1:13.5 | Birg, who's an expert on religion and politics. He is research director for a group called Faith |
| 1:19.2 | Counts and author of the book The Nuns, which is not about NUNS Nuns. It's about N-O-N-E-S Nuns |
| 1:27.8 | as in none of the above for what religion you belong to. The full title of that book is The Nuns |
| 1:34.3 | where they came from, who they are, and where they are going. So let's talk about all this in |
| 1:38.9 | relation to 2024 with Ryan Birg, Professor Birg, thanks for joining. Welcome to WNYC. |
| 1:45.3 | Thanks so much for having me. And you're right that one of the most significant shifts in American |
| 1:49.9 | politics and religion just took place over the past decade and it barely got any notice. What is it? |
| 1:57.2 | Yeah, the share of Americans who associate with religion dropped by 11 points between 2010 and 2020. |
| 2:03.7 | And that's just a continuation of a long-term trend of Americans leaving religion behind. In 1972, |
| 2:10.0 | five percent of Americans said they had no religious affiliation on surveys. And now it's |
| 2:15.1 | 30 percent of Americans said they have no religious affiliation. And amongst Generation Z, |
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