#Sudan: Descent into civil war. Gregory Copley, Defense & Foreign Affairs
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🗓️ 19 April 2023
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#Sudan: Descent into civil war. Gregory Copley, Defense & Foreign Affairs
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sudans-warring-generals-agree-to-day-long-ceasefire-under-us-pressure/ar-AA1a15iR
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS I In The World. I'm John Bachelord with Gregory Coppley of Defense and Foreign Affairs. |
| 0:11.0 | Guiding me over this last year and more, the trouble in the narrow river valley all the way to the Red Sea. |
| 0:18.0 | Ethiopia has been in constant disorder and civil war for some years, having to do with the wars of the 20th century, |
| 0:27.0 | lingering into the 21st. But now the whole question of the narrow river valley is it odds because of a collapse of government in Sudan. |
| 0:37.0 | The news from Cartoum, Reuters reporting, a U.S. diplomatic convoy came under fire in Sudan in an apparent attack by fighters linked to the paramilitary rapid support forces, |
| 0:49.0 | according to U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken, calling the Secretary called the incident reckless and irresponsible. |
| 0:57.0 | At this point the reporting does not include any casualties among the Americans in the convoy. |
| 1:03.0 | But the fighting between Sudan's army led by the General in charge and the rapid forces, the led by a man named Daghalo, |
| 1:14.0 | this special forces I guess you'd think of them and the army is led by General Abdel Fata Al-Berhan, is recent and it includes airstrikes against Cartoum. |
| 1:26.0 | Right now Reuters the best they can do given the chaos as 185 people dead, 1800 injured according to the UN account. Of course that's moving all the time. |
| 1:38.0 | Greg raised Sudan if I recall my lessons correctly, Sudan was used by Egypt as a surrogate to challenge and disrupt Ethiopia over the large dam that Ethiopia needs for energy. |
| 1:52.0 | And Sudan did not disfavor this but I lost track of the Sudanese government because Ethiopia is now calm and at peace Prime Minister Abbi is clearly in charge in Arisababa. |
| 2:06.0 | The disruptions of the last year have gone back, have receded back into the trouble making in certain regions but Sudan is now falling apart. |
| 2:16.0 | I don't want to blame Egypt but I do want to say right now this looks like the military has been heavily armed so much so that two elements of the military, the army chief and the paramilitaries now confided out gun to gun is that accurate. |
| 2:35.0 | Thank you. |
| 2:37.0 | Yes, it is accurate but I'd be a little more cautious on describing the situation in Ethiopia as having stabilized. |
| 2:46.0 | I think we've seen some fairly scary turns in that conflict which we can get to in a minute but what we're seeing in Sudan itself is a situation where although the military government of then President General Omar Al-Berhan, |
| 3:04.0 | the general general general Al-Berhan was overthrown in 2019 putting Lieutenant General Abdel Fattar Al-Berhan in the driver's seat. |
| 3:18.0 | We knew that this was not a done deal, it wasn't a, it wasn't a transition to democracy which the overthrow of Al-Berhan promised and the, |
| 3:30.0 | the general militia, the reference support force group was always going to be vying for power even though the leaders of that and the formal military were working together to control the government. |
| 3:46.0 | Now what we had seen with the Ethiopian government under General Al-Berhan, it was that they had settled their issues with the Sudanese government you're speaking of. |
| 3:59.0 | Yes, certainly, sorry, it's a new government, it's settled their issues with Ethiopia, they no longer were going to attack Ethiopia at the behest of Cairo because General Al-Berhan knew that the dam was there to provide hydroelectric power to Sudan and this was critical. |
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