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Stansberry Investor Hour

Stupidity... or Risk Awareness?

Stansberry Investor Hour

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4.4677 Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Yes, they've gotten a lot of flak. But could there be something more to the "meme-stock mania" crowd? 

In this week's Investor Hour episode, host Dan Ferris welcomes WallStreetBets founder Jaime Rogozinski back to the show.

WallStreetBets is an infamous forum on social media site Reddit. The online community came to public attention in early 2021 when its denizens – often viewed as young, uneducated, and risk-hungry investors – crippled hedge funds by pumping up undeserving "dead stocks" like AMC Entertainment (AMC) and GameStop (GME).

In this week's interview, Jaime gives his eye-opening perspective on the 2021 mania, saying there's more to the story than the negative picture painted by the media...

It's a sophisticated way of doing risk awareness. But it's a conduit for people that start off in a risk-hungry environment and eventually move into a more responsible, traditional approach – but with a tremendous knowledge, I would say, even more so than the average person that starts off with lower-risk approaches.

Jaime also shares what he has learned about investor behavior from watching the action play out across the Reddit board...

When people go into the market and start off with a bunch of wins, it is very dangerous. It's much more dangerous than if they start off by losing money. And the reason why is because it kind of speeds up the learning curve. Somebody that loses money right away is forced to take a step back, slow things down, understand a little bit better, and not be so impulsive. Somebody that makes money without knowing what they're doing goes through these, kind of like, Dunning-Kruger effects... which basically is a way of saying people don't have the ability to measure their own abilities.

 He assuages Dan's curiosity on whether anyone from WallStreetBets has ever blamed him for their losses. And he shares stories of even meeting some of the members. Plus, Jaime's simple but sage answer to Dan's Investor Hour-standard "Final Question" will resound in your investing... and in your life.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Stansberry Investor Hour.

0:11.6

I'm your host Dan Ferris.

0:13.2

I'm also the editor of Extreme Value published by Stansberry Research.

0:18.2

Today we'll talk with Jamie Rogazinsky of Wall Street Betts. Nobody sees the market's

0:22.6

quite like Jamie. You're going to enjoy this. In the mailbag today, inflation, inflation,

0:27.9

and inflation. And remember, you can call our listener feedback line 800-381-2357. Tell us what's on

0:34.7

your mind and hear your voice on the show. From my opening rant this week,

0:39.6

let's talk about high-yield debt a little bit. Let's do that and more right now on the

0:46.0

Stansberry Investor Hour. Why are we talking about high yield debt?

0:56.5

Well, because it is the next thing, I think, that's kind of blowing up.

1:04.0

I caught a chart this morning that was published in the Financial Times. And it showed something really interesting.

1:13.1

Okay, for a while, the garbage, the triple C, right, stuff that's rated triple C and

1:19.2

double C and single C, that's like the bottom tier of the junkiest debt was doing better.

1:27.0

The price was higher. It was the performance was doing better. The price was higher. The performance was outdoing the highest tier,

1:34.6

supposedly the safest, more desirable tier of junk debt, which is rated double B.

1:41.7

Everything rated triple B and higher is investment grade. That's non-junk.

1:47.1

We're just talking about junk here, and junk starts at double B and goes down, right? It goes

1:52.2

double B, single B, triple C, double C, single C. Those are all the junk debt tiers.

1:59.8

And so people were chasing yield as they do in every speculative bubble.

2:04.7

So they pushed the price of the garbage, which generally has a higher yield, up higher than the

2:11.7

price of the better high yield debt. High yield or junk, they're just interchangeable names.

2:21.1

So,

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