Hey everyone, Luke here with a very special episode of The Football Rumble made possible

by Nivea Men together with Talk Club and Men's Mental Health Charity. Together they're

championing a new way to think about our mental fitness through their strength in numbers

campaign. We're often told it's important to talk and open up when not talk how to start

that conversation. So the strength in numbers campaign promotes a simple question that's

proven to help many of all ages start talking with each other about how they're feeling.

But simply ask someone, how are you out of ten with one being low and ten being the best

day of your life. It's easily used in everyday conversation with your friends, family,

teammates and colleagues. Your number can and will change of course and that's okay. We

also don't have to be daunted by these conversations. They can become natural over time. We just

need to get our practice in. So to have one of those exact conversations I'm delighted

to be sitting down with a true legend of English football Rio Ferdinand. Rio once said

that he was the last person who would have spoken openly about mental health but he

since become a massive advocate for the cause. We sat down to chat about how closed off

he was during his playing days, how listening to a problem can be just as important as

trying to solve it and some of the tools he uses today to look after his own mental health.

Well, I'm absolutely delighted to be joined by, in my view, and I've said this over several

episodes of the football round over the years, so it would be remiss of me not to repeat

it now. The greatest defender the Premier League has ever seen. Rio Ferdinand, Rio, thank

you very much for joining me today. It's a beautiful intro, fantastic. I'll come again.

I've always said it. It's great to have you along. Thanks for joining us on the round. It's

awesome to have you here with us. I think the best place for me to start on this episode

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