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🗓️ 10 December 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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| 0:24.5 | The other day, I brought a couple pairs of binoculars to Lower Manhattan |
| 0:28.4 | to meet up with fashion reporter Avery Truffleman. |
| 0:31.7 | We were there to do a little bit of urban birding. |
| 0:34.6 | Are you a big birder? |
| 0:36.1 | I don't do outdoorsy things. |
| 0:40.8 | It's not in my nature. I'm not an outdoorsy guy. Luckily, Avery made an exception for us because we were not, in fact, heading out to |
| 0:47.2 | spot migratory birds with spectacular plumage. No, no, no. We were on the hunt for some very particular kinds of clothing. |
| 0:57.1 | Would it be fair to say that fashion is kind of your Roman Empire? |
| 1:01.3 | Yeah, I would say fashion is my Roman Empire. |
| 1:05.9 | You see, Avery is the host of a podcast called Articles of Interest, which is all about unraveling the hidden |
| 1:12.0 | histories behind the things we wear. She's done deep dives into the question of why women's clothing |
| 1:17.5 | didn't used to have pockets, or how preppy Ivy League style got big in Japan. And I wanted to talk to |
| 1:24.5 | Avery because her latest season is all about how a massive shadowy force |
| 1:29.3 | has been shaping the stuff we all wear for the better part of the last century in ways that |
| 1:34.2 | most of us might not know about. |
| 1:36.6 | And what is that shadowy force, you might ask? |
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