Hello, it's Justin here. As Americaasters who caught our last episode still available on BBC Sounds will know on Thursday not for the first time we had to drop everything.

Turn our attention to Donald Trump. We will continue to keep you updated, of course, on his impending arrest. We'll pop up with another emergency podcast when that happens.

In the meantime, we really wanted to share with you the episode that we had planned for this week. We spoke to Ben Chu, Johnny Depp's lawyer about Donald Trump and about the implications of high-profile celebrity trials and other perfect case study in the actress Gwyneth Paltrow's hearing this week.

But, above all, we wanted to share it with you because we had a really detailed conversation about the urgent topic of mass shootings in the United States, following, of course, another tragedy at a school this time in Nashville, Tennessee.

We spoke about what happened, why tragedies like this keep happening with all of us being there before and are reporting, and also what realistically can be done about it.

And there are things that can and might be done about it. We hope you find it all useful.

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Oh dear, we don't want to start here, but we really have to. We should start as well by saying you could be forgiven for finding the first few minutes of this episode of America's pretty upsetting because we're talking, of course, about grief and about trauma because of the latest school shooting this time in Tennessee.

Are you hearing gunshots now?

Yes, I hear that. You did hear any motions.

Okay, okay. Upstairs, but in a long way.

All right, real quick.

Please, we are here.

Share coming. They're coming.

This attack at the Covenant School in Nashville, Tennessee happened just on Monday. And when we were having our editorial discussion about what to include in this week's episode of America's.

We kind of wondered whether it was even worth talking in this podcast about something that America seems to do nothing about.

And this is yet one more mass shooting in the United States, which is particularly sad when you think that six actually seven people including the shooter and including three young children died in this attack.

Yeah, let's, I guess go over the details of this case of what exactly happened. We know that the attack took place on Monday morning and about 10 a.m. local time.

It was a small private Christian school that kids there ages three to 11.

And they're all locked down because we have two kids that we don't know where they are.

Okay. Okay.

This man.

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