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🗓️ 26 January 2024
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For our latest show-within-a-show, we'll revisit Ancient Greece through Emily Wilson's new translation of Homer's The Iliad. We'll be reading it a few books at a time and having a more in-depth chat about it than we do about most books. These two episodes cover Books 1-4.
Episode 1: The Iliad drops us right into the middle of the action, where "the middle" is 9 years into a 10 year conflict and "the action" is a couple of easily-affronted guys who instantly get mad at each other. Then we're treated to some maneuvering among the gods, some Odyssean trickery, the Catalog of Ships, and the less-impressive Catalog of Boys. (Books 1-2)
Episode 2: Just as the Trojans and Greeks seem on the brink of a giant clash, pretty boy Paris is shamed out of the crowd and cajoled into dueling Paris' former husband Menelaus. Surprise, surprise - the gods intervene! And after a brief interval, the gods spur the two sides into bloody action. (More like Aga-neg'em-on, amirite.) (Books 3-4)
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0:00.0 | This is a headgum podcast. |
0:04.0 | While Andrew and Craig believe the joy of discovery is crucial to enjoying any well told tale, |
0:11.0 | they will not shy away from spoiling specific story beats when necessary. |
0:15.6 | Plus these are books you should have read by now. Oh, uh, uh, |
0:24.0 | uh, uh, Hey everybody welcome to stop Homer time a |
0:46.4 | podcast from the boys at overdue just a podcast about the books you've been meaning to read my name is is Craig. My name is Andrew. And Andrew, we're back here. |
0:56.7 | Many folks have probably listened to episode zero, but if they didn't, |
1:01.0 | what are we talking about? |
1:03.0 | Talking about the Iliad, as translated. |
1:05.0 | The Iliad, you know from school and literature, |
1:09.0 | as translated by Emily Wilson, friend of his show, who also translated the Odyssey several years ago. |
1:15.7 | We read that, we had a good time, come back to read this. |
1:19.2 | And hopefully have another good time, a slightly different good time. |
1:21.8 | Yes, and what we've done if you have the Iliad has 3.9 out of five stars on Goodreads like |
1:27.2 | there's no there's no pleasing anybody you know I I would be interested know what people's complaints are like I like to read the three |
1:35.3 | star good actually not right now and so we're not going to sing this song I would like to |
1:38.4 | read the three star good reviews for the Iliad for people who are like, yeah, this is okay, but like |
1:45.3 | What did they think it was gonna be? I didn't like the characterization. There's not enough |
1:49.2 | explosions. There's no no the Trojan horse doesn't even show up. That's probably a big one. Yeah, that's probably a big one and the like is this the story about war that I thought it was going to be is probably a probably hits for some people. |
2:03.2 | We talk in our episode zero about, you know, Homer again, about where this comes from. |
2:08.7 | We talk about Wilson's translator note and introduction. |
2:12.8 | So go back and listen to that if you have not already. |
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