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Intelligence Squared

Arts, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2018

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

It’s time we came to to our senses. Brexit is a disaster and must be stopped. Leave campaigners promised our exit from the European Union would herald a glorious new era – the sunlit uplands of ‘global Britain’, with new trade deals signed in a matter of months and an extra £350 million per week for the NHS. But what do we have today? Sterling has collapsed, Boris has been busy bungling in Brussels, and the government’s own leaked economic assessments show that leaving the EU will harm every single region of the country, especially ‘left behind’ areas that voted to Leave. The public was misled, and as David Davis once said, ‘If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy’. Let’s end this madness and call the whole thing off. That’s the reasoning of the Remoaners. But can you imagine the damage we’d do to our politics if we overturned the democratic expression of 17 million people – the single biggest mandate in British history? If these sneering liberals had their way, the masses would be forced to vote in referendum after referendum until they gave the ‘correct’ answer. What part of ‘take back control’ don’t they understand? And spare us the whingeing over economic forecasts. We all remember Project Fear and the phoney establishment warnings that the sky would fall in once we voted to Leave. Is it time the public voted again on this defining issue of our times? Or should we embrace the opportunities presented by leaving the EU? Arguing in favour of the motion were Gina Miller, the businesswoman and campaigner who wasd the lead claimant in the successful legal fight to allow parliament to vote on whether the UK could start the process of leaving the EU; and Chuka Umunna, Labour MP for Streatham and a prominent pro-EU campaigner, who is now the leader of a coalition of cross-party groups representing 500,000 members pushing for a referendum on the final EU deal. Arguing against the motion were Gerard Lyons, one of the country’s leading economists and an expert on the global economy, and co-author of Clean Brexit: Why Leaving The EU Still Makes Sense; and Isabel Oakeshott, a pro-Brexit journalist and broadcaster who was political editor of The Sunday Times and authored The Bad Boys of Brexit, an inside account of Nigel Farage and Arron Banks’ Leave.EU campaign. The debate was chaired by Nick Robinson, presenter on Radio 4’s Today programme and former BBC political editor. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi Robert Beston here.

0:02.0

On the 6th of December I'll record a tortoise podcast, The News Meeting,

0:07.0

when I'll tell you about the most important story of the year

0:10.0

and I'll also talk to you about my new book about how to fix Britain and the West.

0:15.6

Fast.

0:16.6

Now, as an exciting Christmas tree, you can join me at the Tabernacle in Notting Hill by going to Intelligencesquare.com to get tickets.

0:28.0

See you then. Ladies and gentlemen welcome to this debate. Thank you Hannah, thank you

0:39.1

Intelligence Squared. A sign that I moved from television to radio. I'm allowed to wear a jumper now.

0:44.0

It feels like a transformation. The first speaker you're going to hear from tonight

0:48.0

and each speaker's got about 10 minutes. They're welcome to take less time if they want to.

0:52.0

We're going to hear first of all from Chucka Moona.

0:55.0

Now Chuckra Moona, as you know, is the Labour MP,

0:58.0

MP for Stretum, he's the former Shadow Business Secretary,

1:01.0

and Leeds now a cross-party coalition with around half a

1:05.3

million supporters who are calling for what they call for what he calls a people's

1:10.4

vote on the final deal. So ladies and young women, please welcome Chuck Ramona.

1:17.0

Well, good evening everyone, and thank you very much to Intelligence Squared for asking me to speak this evening.

1:30.0

I jump straight in.

1:32.0

Thanks for the introduction.

1:33.0

I've been called a Ramona, a Ramona.

1:38.0

The last time I did one of these events with Nigel Farage,

1:41.0

I was called a Romanian and I'm proud. I'm proud to be all of those

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