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Welcome to that's what she said. Conversations with interesting people from the

world, sports, music, comedy, and more. Talking about their lives, careers,

successes, and failures. I'm Stone Gosterd and my dilemma is that I'd like to have

three glasses of wine every night and I realize that I really can't do that.

So that's my dilemma. Yeah, it's a dilemma for sure, but I think you seem like you

already have a handle on it. You know your limits. I mean, for me, early in the

pandemic, I was definitely poppin' bottles and drinking a little bit more.

But a couple months ago, I realized that being tired and hungover and cranky

didn't really help with all the existing feelings of anxiety and malaise.

Not to mention waking up and mistaking a scratchy throat from late night wine

for COVID symptoms was a pretty terrible way to start every day. So I think we

need to think about being gentle with ourselves when it comes to eating and

drinking and other pleasures during this very weird time. But also understand

that those things aren't fixes for what's bothering us. They're just a cover-up.

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