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Stig Abell: Why don't I have any friends?

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3.91.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

1 in 5 men in the UK say they don't have any close friends. Stig Abell is one of them. What are the obstacles to making friends as an adult, and could a psychotherapist help him find answers?


Guests: 

Nadine Abell, Stig's wife.

Cate Campbell, Psychotherapist and relationship counsellor.

Xand van Tulleken, a former colleague of Stig.



Host: Stig Abell, host of the Times Radio's breakfast show.

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0:00.0

I'm Stig Abel, presenter on the new Times Radio launching next week.

0:06.7

I'll be hosting a breakfast show which means getting up very early.

0:10.3

Ugh, and going to bed at an antisocial hour, but here's the thing it won't be antisocial to me because I'm already antisocial.

0:18.0

During lockdown I thought about this. I don't really have any friends.

0:22.0

I've got a theory that life's divided into three work, family and friends and you can only do two of them well and I chose the first two. I've got lovely colleagues a magnificent wife bewitching

0:33.8

children most of the time so does that mean I'm okay without further companionship?

0:38.4

And is this line of thinking a man thing I wonder? My dad worked hard spent time at home and didn't seem to have friends either

0:45.8

whereas my mom still speaks to her friends on the phone for hours at a time

0:56.8

It appears though I'm not alone. Almost one in five blokes across the UK say they have no close friends and also married men like me are less likely to have

1:01.6

mates than single guys.

1:03.0

Not coincidentally perhaps an inability to talk about problems is seen as a major cause in the mental health problems surrounding men.

1:10.0

You're listening to stories of our times from the Times and the Sunday times.

1:15.0

Today, why don't I have any friends? Picture this, static cars, idling engines, angry horns.

1:34.0

Now, picture you.

1:37.0

Zooming past it all.

1:39.0

Light and breezy.

1:42.0

Ah, the sweet feeling of whizzing past traffic.

1:46.0

Book your train journey via avantewestcoast.co.

1:50.0

UK.

1:51.0

avante west coast, feel-good travel.

1:55.0

So, Nadee. So Nadine, have you noticed that I don't have any friends? I have noticed. I asked the question, but I know you have because you've spent the last 15 years of our acquaintance laughing at me for Avenue.

2:16.1

Well I wouldn't say 15 years because at the beginning you did have friends

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