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The Kevin Miller Podcast

Sticking To Your Healthy Habits Plan When Your Days Rarely Go As Planned w/ Behavioral Change Researcher Michelle Segar

The Kevin Miller Podcast

Kevin Miller

Education, Relationships, How To, Social Sciences, Nutrition, Life Sciences, Spirituality, Medicine, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Self-improvement

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Most of us have a daily plan that includes a routine of productive habits. Sometimes the plan happens. And you have a few days, maybe even a week of things running smoothly. Then there is an interruption. And all of the sudden days have gone by and your plan hasn’t happened at all. At the top of this list is often our habits regarding eating and exercise. In all our areas of life where we seek to develop good habits and get better results, there is new information that the areas of diet and exercise don’t work like the others and are the areas we most fail, because, life happens. This new information is brought to us by Dr Michelle Segar who sat down with a couple of years ago. Michelle takes our cultural concept of habits to task. We’re going to talk about her groundbreaking, decision-making framework—and the science behind it—to give hope to the millions of what she calls, “unhabiters,” who are frustrated with their failure to keep up all the good habits they intend to engage with, and discuss a behavior-change solution designed for them. We are enamored with creating habits in our lives that will give us the success we want, but what you’re about to find out is the normal framework and perspective of habits we have doesn’t work for…a lot of us. But there is a solution that will, and it’s why I have Michelle on the show. Michelle is an award-winning, National Institute of Health funded sustainable behavior change researcher at the University of Michigan and a lifestyle coach. For nearly three decades, she has pioneered methods to create sustainable healthy behavior changes that are being used to boost patient health, employee well-being, and even gym membership retention. I’m pulling info from her book, The Joy Choice: How To Finally Achieve Lasting Changes In Eating and Exercise. Sign up for your $1/month trial period at shopify.com/kevin Go to shipstation.com and use code KEVIN to start your free trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller. This is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode,

0:07.1

sticking to your healthy habits when your days rarely go as planned. I mean, most of us have a

0:14.0

daily plan, a concept that it has a routine of productive habits, right? Things that we want to

0:20.1

make daily deposits in and

0:21.7

grow or maintain ourselves. Well, sometimes the plan happens and you've got those days,

0:26.9

maybe a good week of things running smoothly, and then there's the consummate interruption. All of a sudden,

0:33.0

the days have gone by and your plan hasn't happened at all for a while. And at the top of the list,

0:38.8

usually with this is our habits regarding eating and exercise in all areas of our life

0:45.8

where we seek to develop good habits and get better results. There's new information that the

0:50.6

areas of diet and exercise specifically don't work like the others and are the areas

0:56.0

we most fail because life does happen and those are the ones that seem to take the hit.

1:01.9

Well, this new information is brought to us by Dr. Michelle Seeger, who sat down with me a couple

1:09.4

years ago.

1:10.9

Michelle takes our cultural concepts of habits to task, again, especially regarding eating

1:17.0

and exercise.

1:18.5

So we're going to talk about her groundbreaking, decision-making framework and the science

1:24.6

behind it.

1:25.2

And I think it will give a lot of hope to a lot of people,

1:30.2

which she terms as unhabitors, people who are frustrated with their failure to keep up all the

1:36.3

good habits they intend to engage with. And she discusses a behavioral changing solution that

1:42.9

she's designed just for, well, I'll say us. So, I mean,

1:46.6

we're enamored with creating habits in our lives that will give us the success that we want.

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