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My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast.

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It is the time of week where we have a guest join us.

We have had him before.

I think this is the first time he's been like a full-on actual factual guest, which is my fault. Check him out on the podcast, Split Zone Duo, Talking College Football. Stephen Godfrey, how are you, sir? I'm good, man. I'm all over this year. Yeah, I've been doing too much. but I'm glad I'm glad we can talk because as we were joking before we turned the mics on,

we tend to have these conversations.

And our corporate media friends tend to do that thing.

And they start clenching up where we start classifying the business of college football for what it is.

Yeah, you are one of my favorite seedy underbelly guys, right?

I love it.

Fascinated.

You know, college football-wise, we traffic in similar circles, right? The old SB nation circle, which is people fascinated by the madness of this more than anything else. Like, wait a minute. How is this real life, right? Like, how is this actually a thing that does make money? though it's a very important distinction I always say.

College sports exist to make money, not to make profits. Those are not the same thing. Absolutely. At fact, yeah, I think the genesis of my professional reputation was I was sitting in an editorial meeting with our mutual friend Spencer Hall and he was asking me about something that was happening. I told him something that wasn't known yet. And he said, well, how did you know that?

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