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Hey, Jerry, how's it going?

Good, how are you?

It's fantastic. Yeah, I attended your performance in London several years back.

I remember, I remember meeting you afterwards.

Oh, this is the embarrassing moment when you say, oh, I can't, but yeah, I appreciate that.

I was with the Asian female British chess champion, she's been at the top for 10 years in her own.

It was delightful meeting you guys. And I really appreciate you spending some time with us this evening.

Oh, yeah, it's my pleasure.

We've also got Dr. Das with us. And if you're not familiar with Dr. Das, Jerry, he is a psychiatrist.

He's got his own YouTube channel and he's worked with some of the most complex heinous and emotional and shocking cases of mental illness in the UK.

Some of them have been over right there.

Hi, Jerry. Hello, nice to meet you too.

So imagine none of my clients fit that description.

So there's been so much time since that first season of making a murder, the docu-series just hit the screens and people are up in arms all over the world.

There was this climax and now it's kind of gone down considerably.

So my first question, Jerry, would be what developments have come about in recent years?

I know both of those poor guys are still behind bars. I've been watching it here and there, but yeah, especially Brendan Das is an absolute tragedy.

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