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The Mona Charen Show

Steve Vladeck on Trump, the Courts, and the Rule of Law

The Mona Charen Show

The Bulwark

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.6 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Georgetown law professor Stephen Vladeck joins Mona to unpack the Justice Department’s attack on Judge James Boasberg, Trump’s efforts to bend universities to his will, the Supreme Court’s retreat into procedural evasions, and the broader erosion of guardrails in American governance. What happens when process itself—the foundation of the rule of law—comes under assault?

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0:33.7

Welcome everyone to the Mona Charon Show.

0:36.7

So glad you could join us. I am delighted today to welcome back.

0:41.9

Georgetown law professor Stephen Vladick, who writes on the most cutting edge legal issues in his substack.

0:52.0

One first, which if you're not getting it, I highly recommend. And so, Steve,

0:57.4

good to see you again. Thank you for being here. Good, too, and great to be back.

1:02.1

So the first thing I'd like to tackle is the Attorney General's opening of an investigation

1:10.4

or disciplinary hearing or something regarding

1:14.5

James Boseberg, Judge James Boseberg. This really smacks of authoritarian sort of tactics here.

1:26.6

So for a little bit of background, for people who may not remember who

1:31.5

Judge Boasberg is, he is a district court judge in D.C.

1:35.1

He is the judge who heard the Abrigo Garcia case and who ordered the planes to turn around

1:43.7

and who believes and has said that, you know,

1:46.4

that the administration lied to him.

1:50.7

But, okay, so if you wouldn't mind, just lay out what it is the Attorney General has done

1:57.7

and why it worries you so much.

2:00.7

Sure.

2:01.6

Gosh, where to begin?

2:03.3

So the story starts a couple of weeks ago with a piece that was posted on the very pro-Trump

2:11.2

outlet, the Federalist, where the Federalist reported on a leaked memorandum from a March 11th meeting,

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