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Hey, Cultivated Listeners, we're back.

And on the first episode of our new season,

I'm sitting down with one of my favorite artists, Steve Taylor. My barbed! My barber in Boulder

was always asking me about what was going on

and, you know, was interested in what I was doing

and I told him I've been reporting some songs.

I said, well, that sounds interesting.

I got a friend who, you know, just moved out here from LA

who was a big deal in the music business. Can I play him a tape? And yeah. So I gave him the tape. He gave it to his friend. His friend was like, oh, this is really good. And I think he'd been ahead of like Warner Brothers publishing or something. So he set up these meetings for me to go out to L.A. and meet with like Arreston, Warner Brothers, and different labels like that. So I took the

tape out, had the meetings, and the reaction was almost, and I think all three meetings was almost

always the same. It's like, this music is interesting, you know, because like a kind of a punk,

new wave hybrid that sounded good, sounded fresh, but, well, these lyrics, they're like kind of

Christian, but kind of satirical, like, we like your music, but I think your lyrics would offend

our audience. So I thought, well, if it's the Christian content, then I just need to go talk to

some Christian labels. And I played it for a word and sparrow. That's another one. And their reaction was,

we don't like your music. And your lyrics would offend our listeners. And so that kind of defined

my career for the next few decades. There's a pine wall for sitting on a holland. He seems to

have the whole morning out right in front of him

and everything he sings from the branch that he's sitting on.

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