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POLITICO's Off Message

Steve Scalise thinks he knows who'll be the next House Speaker

POLITICO's Off Message

POLITICO

News, Daily News, Politics

4.5637 Ratings

🗓️ 16 October 2018

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Steve Scalise was nearly killed last summer when a gunman opened fire at the Republican congressional baseball team’s practice. Last September, after months of surgeries and intensive rehabilitation, the Louisiana congressman was met with a thunderous ovation when he returned to work at the Capitol. The emotional scene—cathartic for Scalise and so many colleagues who were on the baseball field with him—might have obscured just how far he has to go. He’s still undergoing regular physical therapy and walks with the assistance of a cane; the wounds to his pelvis, hip and left leg were so severe that Scalise still doesn’t know whether he will ever be able to run again. Mentally, however, he claims to have fully recovered. Scalise says he was able to process the incident and put the trauma behind him, by reconstructing the events of the day with the help of his teammates and security detail. That included a trip back to the baseball diamond with David Bailey, one of the two U.S. Capitol Police officers who saved his life. “We went back to second base, and he showed me where the shooter was,” Scalise told me in an interview for Politico’s “Off Message” podcast. “We’re looking at first base, where [U.S. Capitol Police officer Dave Bailey was] in a gunfight with the shooter. And he [was] standing just kind of isolated on an island at first base with no protection, and the shooter is kind of hiding, pigeonholed behind this cinderblock dugout behind third base.” Of course, Scalise doesn’t want to be defined by that event. And he’s a fascinating character for other reasons. Control of the House of Representatives isn’t the only thing at stake in the Nov. 6 midterm elections—it’s the future of the House speakership. Paul Ryan is retiring, Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi faces an uprising among younger Democrats and Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy has not demonstrated the ability to collect the requisite 218 votes needed to become speaker. That makes Scalise, the House majority whip, a popular dark-horse pick to become speaker of the House—that is, if Republicans hold the majority. Scalise, one of Washington’s most reliably on-message lawmakers, is even more cautious than usual these days. He’s spending the home stretch of the election season traveling the country with his House Republican colleagues, raising money and collecting favors while hugging President Donald Trump at every turn. Right now, with a career-climaxing promotion potentially awaiting him next month, Scalise can’t afford to alienate Republicans on either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. The internal dynamics are fragile: McCarthy’s allies have eyed Scalise warily for months, worried that he is undermining his superior’s bid for speaker. Scalise, for his part, promises not to run against McCarthy for the top spot if Republicans hold the House, and moreover, he tells me, “I think Kevin would have the votes.” Politico's "Off Message" podcast is hosted by Tim Alberta. Zack Stanton is producer. Dave Shaw is executive producer. Intro/outro music by Podington Bear.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Here with me for my maiden voyage on the off-message podcast is none other than the most on-Message politician, perhaps in Washington, D.C., the representative of Louisiana's first congressional district, and the House Majority Whip, Steve Scalise.

0:14.1

Mr. Scalise, welcome to the program.

0:15.7

Tim, great to be with you. Congratulations, and hopefully this launches you into, you're going to be like a household name all across the country now. Let's hope so, man. Congratulations. And hopefully this launches you into, you're going to be like a household

0:21.8

name all across the country now. Let's hope so, man. Welcome to Off Message. I'm Tim Alberta.

0:28.3

It's a real privilege to take over the hosting duties for this podcast, and I promise I won't

0:32.8

screw it up too badly. As the chief political correspondent for Politico magazine, I am tasked with writing deep, nuanced,

0:40.9

unhurried feature stories, and to do that, I have lots of deep, nuanced, unhurried conversations

0:46.2

with sources and subjects along the way.

0:48.7

Some of the salty language and sports gossip aside, I'm confident that those interviews

0:53.0

will translate nicely to this new medium,

0:55.4

and don't worry, we'll try to keep the F-bombs and box scores to a bare minimum.

1:00.2

Ultimately, it's my hope to broaden the mission of off-message and take these conversations

1:05.0

in a new direction, focusing not just on the newsmakers themselves, but on the people who elect

1:09.8

them. Washington is hopelessly

1:11.8

disconnected from the rest of America, and one way to bridge that gap is to make sure we're

1:16.1

listening to voters, not just talking to them. Stay tuned for more on that front. For now, however,

1:22.7

with just weeks until the midterm elections, a potential pivot point for the country, politically

1:27.3

and otherwise.

1:28.6

I wanted to bring you an interview with someone whose future hinges on the results of November

1:32.7

the 6th, someone who has become a household name for reasons they never expected, and someone

1:38.1

who could potentially become the next Speaker of the House. That someone is Congressman Steve

1:43.3

Scalise. It's a bit of an ironic

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