ID the Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

Welcome to ID the Future. I'm Andrew McDermott.

Today, philosopher of science Dr. Stephen Meyer concludes his conversation with Praxis Circle's Doug Monroe.

In this last section of a multi-part interview, Dr. Meyer explains why theistic evolution,

the belief that God used the evolutionary process to create, is an incoherent position to take

on the origin and development of life. There's no need, Meyer says, to attempt to reconcile

theistic belief with a dying theory. Meyer also discusses the topic of miracles. He thinks David

Hume's classic argument against miracles is weak and goes on to explain how miracles demonstrate

the independent action of a conscious agent and why they don't

violate the laws of physics.

It's an intriguing conclusion to a wide-ranging conversation.

Let's join host Doug Monroe again with Dr. Stephen Meyer.

I would like a little comment between the Newton and Leibniz of our day today, and that's the

dispute, if you can call it that between you and Francis Collins about the extent of

evolution applying to things. Could you give a layman's comment there? There are different views of biological origins within the religious community,

within the Christian community, within the broader theistic people who hold a theistic worldview.

And one of those views which is different than the view I hold is the view of theistic evolution.

And that's the idea that

that God in some way used the evolutionary process to create life, to create the new forms of life.

Wasn't that the church's sort of original approach to when it came up just?

Not really because the evolutionary theory is really only dates from the 19th century

and so there are figures sorry to interrupt you in that in any case the so theistic evolution

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