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I'm talking to the author of a book called Telos, T-E-L-O-S, the scientific basis for

Life of Purpose, Stephen Yakoboni, the oncologist, scientist who wrote that book.

You were just talking before the break about the miracle, I don't know how else people can view it, of you say a three-inch-long salmon fry.

In other words, we're talking about a newborn salmon that travels how far? 8,000 miles. 8,000 miles in the ocean. 8,000 miles seems somehow to

know where to go. It's mind bending. They do know where to go. It's mind-bending.

They do know where to go.

And the book we were talking about,

it's called Animal Algorithms.

Somebody, Eric Castle, is that it?

From the Discovery Institute.

Astonishing.

But it gets to your point.

Science says, oh, that's just instinct.

That's just, and you think, well, what's instinct?

What do you mean? It has a brain the size of a grain of sand, and how does it navigate? A human

being would have trouble pulling this off, and our brain is vast. So, logically, you'd say, it seems to have been designed to do this. It seems to have

been designed by someone for this purpose. Exactly. So the first chapter, there's several

examples like that. Just to get the reader comfortable with the fact that I'm going to talk about

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