Stephen Hayes Talks to David Remnick About the Future of Conservatism

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🗓️ 13 March 2017

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Donald Trump promises tax cuts, a rollback of regulations, and a repeal of Obamacare—music to the ears of most Republicans. But, in an address to Congress this month, the President also said, “Everything that is broken in our country can be fixed. Every problem can be solved.” That statement is almost heresy for an establishment conservative like Stephen Hayes, the editor of The Weekly Standard. Like his predecessor, the influential neoconservative Bill Kristol, Hayes was firmly in the “Never Trump” camp before the election. He remains leery of the President’s comfort with big government and is appalled by the Administration’s “casual dishonesty.” Hayes wants conservatives to call out the President’s lies and “un-American” attacks on the media. But he thinks that progressives do the Administration a favor when they react with outrage “every time Kellyanne Conway puts her feet on the couch.”

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1:12.4	I'm David Remnick. On today's Politics and More podcast, I talk with Stephen Hayes, the editor of the Weekly Standard.
1:20.0	Hayes is a prominent voice in neoconservatism and sees the Trump administration embracing big government policies.
1:27.0	And he wonders what that means for the
1:28.9	future of the Republican Party.
1:33.9	It's going to be some time, years maybe, before we ever get a definitive account of what's going
1:40.4	on inside the White House in this first dramatic hundred days of the Trump administration.
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1:52.0	Some players trying to keep Trump to a Republican line of a traditional conservative sort,
1:58.0	while Steve Bannon and others with a nationalist agenda are determined to
2:02.5	satisfy Trump's fans at any cost. So on the one hand, there's the promise of tax cuts, rolling back
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