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This is CBSI in the world with Mary Kisle, the executive vice president, Stevenson

corporate, former senior advisor to the Secretary of State. Ukraine conflict. This headline from London.

Ukraine, Russia war. Russian soldiers quote scraping brains off their boots, unquote. After

the Ukrainian high-marstrike on barracks, the number of dead is not given. It's more than

16, but some bloggers, mill blogs are called Russian nationalist mill blogs, say in the

hundreds. As I understand it now, it's fog of war, so I'm not going to go into the

details other than the fact that these young people, young men, I'm presuming, were obliged

to be in a place where they were suddenly wiped off the face of the earth, suddenly, just

like that. The Ukrainian have been suffering similar casualties throughout their cities

because of the bombardment by Russia. So here we are 10 months into a war that does not

seem to have an end. And the puzzle is what is to be done, how dangerous is it? What

is your measure, Mary, through these last months? Is the war going more dangerous? Are

people becoming less threatened by it? Or is there a sense that we're headed into a dark

place, something that is going to involve NATO? Well, it's hard to tell, John, because

we don't know how long Putin will last in his role. It is possible that he could be killed

or overthrown or die sometime this year. We don't know what the resolve really is of the

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