This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Bats with my colleague, Mary Kissel, executive vice

president, Stevenson corporate who traveled widely across the world island, Eurasia, as

senior advisor to the Secretary of State. Moscow presents a quandary. Moscow is a broken

city, a broken capital. The sanctions regime, the flight of its best and brightest to other

capitals, Yarevan, Buenos Aires, Noursalton, Paris, Berlin, the young people fleeing, voting

with their feet. Over told that 22,000 Russians are in Buenos Aires, many of them young pregnant

women to escape the reach of the authoritarian state in Moscow. So what does the world look

like on the other side of the Ukraine conflict? There will be a ceasefire, there will be a negotiation,

there will be diplomatic accommodation, it won't satisfy anyone, but it will happen. And

then what? Mary is Russia now capable of being reintroduced into Europe in some fashion?

Or is it now going to be ring-fenced for the balance of this century? Can you tell traveling

Mary? Well, the answer to that question I think depends on how exactly the war ends and

who wins. And we're nowhere near the war's end, John. This conflict could drag out for

years. Russia has the capacity to keep fighting for at least a year or two today. And that's

not even taking into account the potential for, as we discussed in the prior segment, Chinese

help in the form of lethal aid to Russia. And this is happening to remember in an era

where there is a bit of war fatigue in Washington because our political leadership has not stood

up and explained to the American people why we are involved, what the stakes are, and the

outcome that we want to see at the end of all of this. But what will the world look like?

Well, if Russia wins, the world I think will look very, very dangerous. You'll have Russia

bordering Poland, a NATO ally. You would have a huge surge, I think, of weaponry and US troops

over into the eastern part of Europe. You might see a rearmament of, or shall I say, an increase in

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