I'm John Bachelors with my colleague Mary Kessel, Executive Vice President

Stevens Incorporated former Senior Advisor to the Secretary of State,

now a Senior Fellow Tatsun Institute.

Mr. Zelensky in America, traveling to Pennsylvania, my home state,

traveling with the very popular young governor,

Mr. Shapiro, and I believe some campaign was going on, visiting Scranton, Pennsylvania,

the birthplace of President Biden and Senator Casey, and visiting an ammunition factory if I understand correctly signing some

shells one fifty five shells headed perhaps to Ukraine perhaps to

who whoever it concerns on the Russian side. However, Mary, the puzzle to me was

Mrs. Selensi, the president of a sovereign state at war, making negative

remarks about a presidential or vice presidential candidate in this case who is Senator Vance of Ohio

It seemed in poor taste how did you hear it Mary? I think it's it shows the desperation of the Ukrainians that they worry that they are losing the support of nations that provide them key weaponry

munitions and intelligence. Democracy's tend to be impatient when it comes to war,

because they're generally, their politicians are subject to the whims of their people and if you don't have

someone standing up in a position of influence in a democracy and explaining very

clearly you know why we need to be supportive of a conflict or you know why it's in our national interest and

and taking that political risk then you know that that interest generally goes away and I think there is it's it's unclear to me

what a second Trump term would do I think there's a lot of speculation but I just point everyone to the way that we

dealt with Russia in the first term which was to be extraordinarily hard on Putin.

We sanctioned this in her circle.

I've said this before.

We got out of the IMF treaty with unanimous NATO support

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