Hello there, everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast.

Kevin Espiritu here, we have Chris from Fluent Garden on the podcast for our final episode

this week.

She is a horticulturist and a garden consultant and her company is called Fluent Garden

up in Vancouver.

We had initially connected over Instagram and then we started just chatting about Instagram

and gardening and all sorts of stuff.

And here we are on the podcast, Chris.

So we've talked a lot about perennials this week and garden design.

Now let's go hyper-practical mode and just give people some tips on a long-lived productive

edible garden from your experiences growing.

Yeah, for sure.

The first one I just want to start off is, you know, I tell this to everyone, be realistic.

Although it's your space and you want, you know, you have these wonderful goals.

One thing I tell my clients is, you know, you have to be realistic.

What is your lifestyle like?

Are you really going to want to tend to your things like every single day?

Yeah, is that realistic?

And also, you know, make it, make your garden a space that you can enjoy.

Like how do you, how do you want to enjoy?

Do you just want to invite birds into your garden or do you want to have like crazy harvest?

So before we dig into like the details, it's kind of like, okay, how do you want to, how

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