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Talking about their lives, careers, successes and failures. I'm John Barr and my

dilemma is should I drink the scotch that bears my name when I know it's so good. I'm Dan Murphy and

my dilemma is that I can't stand the bathroom attendant to try to help you wash your hands

in fancy bathrooms. John, this is a simple one. No, definitely not. If it's not good, you should

definitely not drink it, but you should absolutely have a bottle prominently displayed on your liquor

cart or cabinet. It's a fun thing. It's a cool thing to show guests. Maybe they would like it. Maybe

they don't have a discerning of a palette as you do. But definitely don't drink it if it stinks.

I just have a couple bottles around for the fun of it. And Dan, you know, I'm with you on this one.

I don't really need you to hand me the paper towel that's an inch away from my hand so that I could

be guilted away into giving you five bucks. But that being said, as a lady maybe more so than a guy,

sometimes they really come in handy. You need deodorant or gum or perfume or safety pin, you know,

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