Hey, good afternoon, everybody. We've got Kit Clarenberg back with us, and we're going to be discussing our friends being in court today. This is what we've been waiting for, a development in this story. And I'm going to read the news that's brought today, and then Kit will come in.

Huge thank you for everybody who clicked on kit's links last time they are all

in the description box if you want to support his important work like we said last time not many

people are talking about this story it does seem to be have a media blackout that you're only

allowed to say so much so the the major headline today is that the trial date has been set for men

charged over fires at properties linked to Keir Sturma.

And Ukrainian National Roman 21 appeared at the Old Bailey today alongside the calling him a Romanian national Stanislav and Ukrainian national Petro.

Oh Petro refused to attend the core hearing.

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a very interesting feature. He refused to leave himself.

Wow. That's very interesting, isn't it? I mean, how would you interpret that? I mean, I was

incarcerated myself. It was very rare you would see someone refuse to go to court.

You know, the guards, if it was a serious case, a high profile case like this,

the guards would just come in and drag you out the cell, put you in belly chains, handcuffs, leg ankles.

And you'd have no choice.

They'd walk you in there like a dog if they wanted to. But that that was in the states perhaps the laws are a bit more lenient here. Yeah well I mean maybe he enjoys the showers

in prison particularly but I yeah that I mean that what I think what's really weird about this and

I think that viewers should really bear this in mind is that as we do I think as's really weird about this, and I think that viewers should really bear this in mind,

is that as we do, I think as we discussed last time we spoke, Sean, while the counter-terror,

Britain's counter-terrorism director, SO-15, is overseeing this case. They, and there are suggestions

in the media that there was an international

element to this where they were in the three Ukrainians were part of a conspiracy with people

unknown in service of an unknown objective. They've not been charged with terror offences.

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