This is CBS Eye in the World. I'm John Bachelors. Modern liberal education. What does it

consist of? At least in part, awareness that we here in the 21st century in the United

States of America are the product of centuries, of challenges and adversity by men and women

we can't know, some who speak English most or not. And all of that adds up to Western

civilization in my college years in the 20th century. No more. I welcome Professor Richard

Epstein of the Hoover Institution, who introduces me to a program I had no knowledge of at Stanford

University, a distinguished liberal arts college. It's called itself College, which is

an acronym for civic, liberal and global education introduced into the Stanford curriculum

in 2021 with the intention of, quote, steer clear of the cultural issues that doomed Western

Civ. End quote. So my understanding is college is meant to replace or take the weight of Western

Civ in the 20th century. My education, Richard, a very good evening to you. College, what

is it look beyond steer clear? What is it steering toward? Good evening. That's a very difficult

question. To say that Western civilization courses are doomed is to make an extraordinarily

broad sweep and denunciation. But in fact, wholly, apart from anything that was set

on in Stanford, that was the temper of the times for the 20 ideas beforehand. It was encapsulated

in an expression called, we don't have to spend any of our time worrying about dead white males.

And when you start to do that as this kind of categorical denunciation, it's a kind of form of

intellectual impropriety at the very least because you're lumping together all sorts of people who

are very different amongst themselves, different ages, different languages, different perspectives,

different disciplines. And you're dismissing them all one in hand with a remark, which is not

applicable to any of them. So when I wrote this little essay about the Stanford program,

you know, in the class of dead white males, you have everybody from Palmer and through

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